Steambox | Update 3: Gabe parla dei prezzi dei vari modelli, la box della Valve sarà un server

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    Update 3: Gabe parla dei prezzi per i vari modelli delle Steambox:
    Newell also tipped Valve's hand on target pricing for Steam Boxes built by partners, saying that the company sees three tiers of hardware specifications: "Good, Better," and "Best." He says the goal for a "Good" platform is a free device, but that one would probably start around $99 and eventually come down. Newell says a midrange device should cost around $300, and that the top-tier is only limited by how much someone is willing to spend.
    La Steambox ufficiale sarà anche un server che potrà essere collegata a più TV.
    "The Steam Box will also be a server," Newell says, "so you could have one PC and eight televisions and eight controllers."
    Update 2: Nuovo interview a Gabe Newell di The Verge che rivela molte info sulle Steambox, che anche la Valve stessa ne farà una e che sono interessati in controlli biometrici, ma non di movimento.
    The Verge: So you're working on your own Steam Box hardware. Why work with so many partners when you have your own ideal design in mind?

    Gabe Newell: What we see is you've got this sort of struggle going on between closed proprietary systems and open systems. We think that there are pluses and minuses to open systems that could make things a little messier, it’s much more like herding cats, so we try to take the pieces where we’re going to add the best value and then encourage other people to do it. So it tends to mean that a lot of people get involved. We’re not imposing a lot of restrictions on people on how they’re getting involved.

    TV: We've heard lots of rumors about the Steam Box, including that Valve's own hardware would be "tightly controlled." Can you tell us more about Valve's own hardware effort?

    Gabe: The way we sort of think of it is sort of "Good, Better," or "Best." So, Good are like these very low-cost streaming solutions that you’re going to see that are using Miracast or Grid. I think we’re talking about in-home solutions where you’ve got low latency. "Better" is to have a dedicated CPU and GPU and that’s the one that’s going to be controlled. Not because our goal is to control it; it’s been surprisingly difficult when we say to people "don’t put an optical media drive in there" and they put an optical media drive in there and you’re like "that makes it hotter, that makes it more expensive, and it makes the box bigger." Go ahead. You can always sell the Best box, and those are just whatever those guys want to manufacture. [Valve's position is]: let's build a thing that’s quiet and focuses on high performance and quiet and appropriate form factors.

    TV: So are most of these going to be Linux-based Steam Boxes?

    Gabe: We’ll come out with our own and we’ll sell it to consumers by ourselves. That’ll be a Linux box, [and] if you want to install Windows you can. We’re not going to make it hard. This is not some locked box by any stretch of the imagination. We also think that a controller that has higher precision and lower latency is another interesting thing to have.

    TV: Speaking of controllers, what kind of creative inputs are you working on? Valve has already confessed its dissatisfaction with existing controllers and the kinds of inputs available. Kinect? Motion?

    Gabe: We’ve struggled for a long time to try to think of ways to use motion input and we really haven’t [found any]. Wii Sports is still kind of the pinnacle of that. We look at that, and for us at least, as a games developer, we can’t see how it makes games fundamentally better. On the controller side, the stuff we’re thinking of is kind of super boring stuff all around latency and precision. There’s no magic there, everybody understands when you say "I want something that’s more precise and is less laggy." We think that, unlike motion input where we kind of struggled to come up with ideas, [there's potential in] biometrics. We have lots of ideas.

    I think you’ll see controllers coming from us that use a lot of biometric data. Maybe the motion stuff is just failure of imagination on our part, but we’re a lot more excited about biometrics as an input method. Motion just seems to be a way of [thinking] of your body as a set of communication channels. Your hands, and your wrist muscles, and your fingers are actually your highest bandwidth — so to trying to talk to a game with your arms is essentially saying "oh we’re going to stop using ethernet and go back to 300 baud dial-up." Maybe there are other ways to think of that. There’s more engagement when you’re using larger skeletal muscles, but whenever we go down [that path] we sort of come away unconvinced. Biometrics on the other hand is essentially adding more communication bandwidth between the game and the person playing it, especially in ways the player isn’t necessarily conscious of. Biometrics gives us more visibility. Also, gaze tracking. We think gaze tracking is going to turn out to be super important.

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    Update 1: Non ce ne sarà una Steambox sola, come molti si aspettavano, ma diversi modelli da diversi manufattori con specs diverse che sono basate su Steam e la Big Picture mode.
    A Valve official tells Polygon that they plan to spend their week at the Consumer Electronics Show meeting with hardware and content developers in their booth and showcasing "multiple" custom hardware prototypes.

    On Monday, Valve grabbed the CES spotlight when hardware partner Xi3 announced plans for their "steam box" Piston computer game system. The still-in-development Steam-optimized mini PC, backed by an "investment from Valve Corporation", will offer up to 1 TB of internal storage and modular component updates.

    Reached for comment this morning about the forthcoming piece of hardware, Valve marketing director Doug Lombardi told Polygon that Piston is just one of many hardware prototypes they brought to the show.

    "Valve will be at CES to meet with hardware and content developers in our booth space," Lombardi said. "We are bringing multiple custom (hardware) prototypes as well as some off-the-shelf PCs to our CES meetings."

    Lombardi described the prototypes as "low-cost, high-performance designs for the living room that are great candidates for Steam and Big Picture.

    "We will be sharing more information to the press and public in the coming months," he added.
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    Xi3Corporation announced a development stage system optimized for computer gameplay on large high-definition television monitors.

    Housed in the uniquely shaped, grapefruit-size Xi3® Modular™ Computer chassis, this new development stage product is being showcased this week at the 2013 International CES trade show in Las Vegas, Nevada in booth #20425 in the Las Vegas Convention Center. Xi3's new development stage product is designed specifically to support both Steam® and its Big Picture™ mode for residential and LAN party computer gaming on larger high-def screens.

    With more than 50 million subscribers around the world, Steam is the digital distribution, digital rights management, multiplayer and communications/community platform from Valve Corporation. Big Picture mode allows members to access and play games through Steam on any connected high-definition television display/monitor.

    "Today marks the beginning of a new era for Xi3," said Jason A. Sullivan , founder, President and CEO of Xi3. "This new development stage product will allow users to take full-advantage of their large high-definition TV displays for an amazing computer game experience. As a result, this new system could provide access to thousands of gaming titles through an integrated system that exceeds the capabilities of leading game consoles, but can fit in the palm of your hand."

    Xi3 also announced today it has received an investment from Valve Corporation. Xi3's new development stage computer game system is also being showcased in Valve's booth (#25730) at CES 2013. No additional details about Xi3's new system or Valve's investment in Xi3 will be released at this time.
    As we envision our new X7A Modular Computer, we see it powered by a new Quad-Core 64-bit, x86-based processor running at up to 3.2GHz, integrated with up to 384 graphics shader cores, and 8GB of DDR3 RAM, and able to handle graphics-rich computer games like Crysis 2 with ease. The X7A Modular Computer will also run 3 high-definition monitors simultaneously, has four USB 3.0/2.0 ports, four eSATAp ports, four USB 2.0 ports, a 10/100/1000 Ethernet port, and up to 1TB of super fast solid-state storage inside the chassis, making it perfect for gamers and power users alike. And yet the X7A Modular Computer will be housed in a chassis about the size of a softball (4.27x3.65x3.65-inches) and run on a mere 40Watts of electricity or less. We expect the X7A Modular Computer to begin shipping in early 2013 with a price starting at under $1,000. All within a chassis you can hold in the palm of your hand!
    - Release: 2013
    - Prezzo: "meno di 1000$" (=999$?)


    - Processore quad-core 64-bit @ 3.2 GHz
    - 1 TB HDD
    - 8GB DDR3 RAM
    - La CPU e la RAM saranno upgradeabili.

    - 1 ethernet port
    - 1/8" audio in/out
    - SPDIF optical audio
    - 4 port USB 3.0
    - 4 port USB 2.0 (con uno dedicato al keyboard)
    - 4 port eSATAp
    - 2 port Mini Display Port
    - port DisplayPort/HDMI
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    È puccia, ma circolano voci secondo il quale dovrebbe costare tra i 499€ e i 999€.
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    Darksilver ha scritto:È puccia, ma circolano voci secondo il quale dovrebbe costare tra i 499€ e i 999€.
    Gli altri mini-PC fatti da Xi3 (avevo sbagliato prima e l'immagine che c'era prima nell'OP era di quelle infatti, ho corretto ora) si trovano per quei prezzi, quindi è probabile. Visto però che sarà basato su Linux e non Windows magari si risparmia qualche 100€ li. Hanno anche detto che è upgradabile, quindi penso anche che il modello di base sarà più vicino a 500€ che 1000€.

    Comunque, se vi interessa della potenza:

    L'X7A, il modello più potente di questi mini-PC della Xi3 ha una APU AMD Trinity, questi sono i risultati probabilmente ci dobbiamo aspettare:

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    26 FPS in Battlefield 3 a dettagli medium su uno schermo di 1366x768. Poco spettacolare.
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    Gabe ha confermato che questa NON è Steam Box. Lanceranno da soli la propria console (che al momento si chiama Project "BigFoot"), ma non è confermato che ciò avverrà nel 2013.
    Di base, come già detto, monterà Linux, ma chiunque potrà sostituirlo con Windows, se lo desidera (comprandolo, ovviamente).
    Anche il sistema di controllo sarà abbastanza aperto: gli utenti saranno liberi di utilizzare addirittura motion control.
    Inoltre, stanno lavorando sull'opportunità di collegarlo fino a 8 TV/monitor contemporaneamente per permettere una specie di multitasking.
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    Gianmark ha scritto:Gabe ha confermato che questa NON è Steam Box. Lanceranno da soli la propria console (che al momento si chiama Project "BigFoot"), ma non è confermato che ciò avverrà nel 2013.
    Di base, come già detto, monterà Linux, ma chiunque potrà sostituirlo con Windows, se lo desidera (comprandolo, ovviamente).
    Anche il sistema di controllo sarà abbastanza aperto: gli utenti saranno liberi di utilizzare addirittura motion control.
    Inoltre, stanno lavorando sull'opportunità di collegarlo fino a 8 TV/monitor contemporaneamente per permettere una specie di multitasking.
    Ma hai letto il primo post? lol

    Non esiste una sola Steambox. Piston è una di tante.
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    Fosh ha scritto:
    Gianmark ha scritto:Gabe ha confermato che questa NON è Steam Box. Lanceranno da soli la propria console (che al momento si chiama Project "BigFoot"), ma non è confermato che ciò avverrà nel 2013.
    Di base, come già detto, monterà Linux, ma chiunque potrà sostituirlo con Windows, se lo desidera (comprandolo, ovviamente).
    Anche il sistema di controllo sarà abbastanza aperto: gli utenti saranno liberi di utilizzare addirittura motion control.
    Inoltre, stanno lavorando sull'opportunità di collegarlo fino a 8 TV/monitor contemporaneamente per permettere una specie di multitasking.
    Ma hai letto il primo post? lol

    Non esiste una sola Steambox. Piston è una di tante.
    Ah, questo non lo sapevo. Mi chiedo se la versione Valve riuscirà ad essere più console delle altre, in qualche modo, così mi sembrano solo dei PC preassemblati
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